{"id":2536,"date":"2013-06-03T18:49:49","date_gmt":"2013-06-03T18:49:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/earbook.online\/pora\/ru\/?p=2536"},"modified":"2013-06-03T18:49:49","modified_gmt":"2013-06-03T18:49:49","slug":"antworten-auf-die-fragen-von-spezialistinnen-an-frau-doris-vercelli-zum-seminar-am-26-05-2013","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/earbook.online\/pora\/blog\/2013\/06\/antworten-auf-die-fragen-von-spezialistinnen-an-frau-doris-vercelli-zum-seminar-am-26-05-2013\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0412\u043e\u043f\u0440\u043e\u0441\u044b \u0438 \u043e\u0442\u0432\u0435\u0442\u044b \/ Fragen und Antworten in DEUTSCH zum Webseminar 26.05.2013 mit Frau Doris Vercelli (B\u0435\u0431-\u0441\u0435\u043c\u0438\u043d\u0430\u0440 26.05.2013 \u0433. &#8211; \u0423\u0434\u0430\u043b\u0435\u043d\u043d\u0430\u044f \u043d\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0440\u043e\u0439\u043a\u0430 \u0438 \u0440\u0435\u0430\u0431\u0438\u043b\u0438\u0442\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right\"><em>\u00a0A. B\u00fcchner in Istanbul: Remote Fitting is the bridging technology<\/em><br \/>\n<em> towards &#8220;fitting at home&#8221; and finally &#8220;self-fitting by the patients&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">-warum wurde die Patientin in zwei anderen CI Zentren abgelehnt?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">&#8211; ist bei 50% Sprachverstehen die Kommunikation \u00fcber den Telefon m\u00f6glich<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">-wie oft soll man das H\u00f6rger\u00e4t um\/austauschen<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">-ab welchem Alter ist Remoutfitting des CI bei Kindern m\u00f6glich<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">-wird in Hannover durch Remoutfitting Zeit gesparrt<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><em>Frage \u00fcber die Patientin H. (Fallbeispiel \u21161)<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>\u00a0[Monika Lehnhardt-Auggen] Warum wurde die Patientin in zwei anderen CI Zentren abgelehnt?<\/strong><br \/>\nDie Patientin wurde an 2 anderen CI Centrum als nicht CI-Kandidatin, so zu sagen, beurteilt, weil ihr Sprachverstehen bzw. ihr H\u00f6rverm\u00f6gen zu gut war.<br \/>\nUnd die Sprachverst\u00e4ndlichkeit, meine ich, lag mit H\u00f6rger\u00e4ten noch ungef\u00e4hr bei 50%<\/p>\n<p><strong>[Jana Frey_Berlin] Bedeutet es, dass bei 50% Sprachverstehen die Kommunikation \u00fcber den Telefon nicht m\u00f6glich ist? (Does 50% mean that no phone possible?)<\/strong><br \/>\nDie 50% Sprachverst\u00e4ndlichkeit\u00a0 bezieht sich auf das Verstehen der Sprache mir H\u00f6rger\u00e4ten, und die Patientin war in Ruhe ansprechbar, wenn man ihr gegen\u00fcber sa\u00df, telefonieren\u00a0 war so gut wie gar nicht m\u00f6glich und wenn Schwerger\u00e4usche aufgetreten sind, dann war es eigentlich auch kaum m\u00f6glich f\u00fcr sie zu verstehen.<br \/>\nDas ist eine Eigenart dieser Patientin gewesen, das war die Schwierigkeit speziell f\u00fcr diese Patientin. Das ist nicht immer so, dass wenn\u00a0 einer ein H\u00f6rger\u00e4t tr\u00e4gt und 50% versteht, dass er dann auch nicht telefonieren kann.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[Oksana -Kherson] Wie oft soll man das H\u00f6rger\u00e4t um\/austauschen?Unsere Spezialisten sprechen \u00fcber ein Mal in 5 Jahren. Ist das notwendig, wenn das Ger\u00e4t noch tut? <\/strong><br \/>\nWenn das H\u00f6rger\u00e4t wirklich jeden Tag getragen wurde, dann sind die H\u00f6rger\u00e4te in der Technik h\u00e4ufig schon so verbraucht, dass sie getauscht werden m\u00fcssten. Wenn die H\u00f6rger\u00e4te nicht jeden Tag getragen werden, dann ist es eine ganz andere Voraussetzung.<br \/>\nIn Deutschland zahlen die Krankenkassen ein Upgrade nicht nur f\u00fcr ein H\u00f6rger\u00e4t (nach 6 Jahren), sondern auch f\u00fcr den Sprachprozessor\u00a0 des CIs (nach 5 Jahren).<\/p>\n<p><strong>[Ulyana -Lviv] Ab welchem Alter ist Remoutfitting des CI bei Kindern m\u00f6glich?<\/strong><br \/>\nEs ist davon abh\u00e4ngig, wie viel Erfahrung die Person hat, die die Sprachprozessoren dann vor Ort einstellt, das hei\u00dft\u00a0 die H\u00f6rf\u00e4higkeit\u00a0 des Kindes interpretieren kann.<br \/>\nSie m\u00fcssen wissen, dass man \u00fcber die Videokamera die Reaktionen des Kindes vielleicht nicht ganz detailliert sieht. Und der Ingenieur passt in Hannover an, der\u00a0 stellt den Sprachprozessor ein,\u00a0 und der muss auf die Reaktionen des Kindes reagieren.<br \/>\nAus diesem Grund hat sich auch Hannover dagegen ausgesprochen, schon kleine Kinder \u00a0im Grunde \u00fcbers Remoutfitting einzustellen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[Jana Frey_Berlin] Bitte, ab wieviel Jahren?<\/strong><br \/>\nIch denke, dass es ab einem Jahr m\u00f6glich ist. Allerdings ist es wichtig, dass der Spezialist das Kind sehr gut kennt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[<\/strong><strong>Monika<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>Lehnhardt<\/strong><strong>&#8211;<\/strong><strong>Auggen<\/strong><strong>] Ich wei\u00df, dass in Australien und Polen Remoutfitting wegen zu gro\u00dfer Entfernungen vorgenommen wird.<\/strong><br \/>\nVielleicht werden auch wir das in Zukunft anwenden. Wir arbeiten erst seit 2011 und sind f\u00fcr alles neue (auch f\u00fcr Remoutfitting) offen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[Jana Frey_Berlin] Was meinen Sie, wird in Hannover durch Remoutfitting Zeit gesparrt?<\/strong><br \/>\nJa, durch Remoutfitting wird sehr viel Zeit gesparrt. In Hannover dauert die Visite eine Stunde, Remout sind es nur 20 Minuten, da die Begr\u00fc\u00dfung, die Nebenfragen und die technische kontrollen wegfallen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0A. 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